This week has a bunch of updates on old favorites for the smart home with a third generation thermostat from Nest and a new home hub from SmartThings. We start the show with Kevin and I discussing the slimmer Nest thermostat with a bigger screen and software upgrades (http://fortune.com/2015/09/01/new-nest-thermostat/). Our decision? There is no need to upgrade, but the Nest is still a winner. We also review the reviews of the new router from Google and Kevin decides if he can find one, he'll try it out and report back. But the biggest news on the smart home front is probably the upgrade to the SmartThings hub, which I've had in my home since 2013 and is getting an upgrade on Thursday. Our guest is SmartThings CEO Alex Hawkinson, who covers some of the changes and the new services model the company first unveiled at CES. We also talk about how it is handling Apple's HomeKit and competition after its acquisition by Samsung last summer. The company has handled the challenge of being open while also trying to make a consumer-friendly product, which isn't easy, as any Android user can tell you. This iteration may be the one that pushes it into the mainstream. Listen up and see what you think.